Astle Park 1000 engine rally-please read this posting

[w***@hotmail.com]

Dear all,
THE 1000 ENGINE RALLY IS DEFINITELY NOT CANCELLED AND WILL TAKE PLACE
THIS WEEKEND,ALL WELCOME.
I have been asked by a member of the management team of the 1000 engine
rally to post this information as they are getting phonecalls asking if
the rally is cancelled.It is thought that this story originated
somewhere on the internet but it is not known where.If you hear this
rumour,kindly disregard it as it is complete rubbish.Thanks for reading
this and hope to see all of you who are attending at the weekend.

Kenny Williams
pp The 1000 engine organisation team.

[Paul Swindell]

I feel that this rumour started when people are getting 1000 Engine rally
and Astle Park steam rally (which is held in August on the same site) mixed
up. The posts I have seen state the steam rally are not having stationary
engines for some reason.
Paul.

Post by w***@hotmail.com
Dear all,
THE 1000 ENGINE RALLY IS DEFINITELY NOT CANCELLED AND WILL TAKE PLACE
THIS WEEKEND,ALL WELCOME.
I have been asked by a member of the management team of the 1000 engine
rally to post this information as they are getting phonecalls asking if
the rally is cancelled.It is thought that this story originated
somewhere on the internet but it is not known where.If you hear this
rumour,kindly disregard it as it is complete rubbish.Thanks for reading
this and hope to see all of you who are attending at the weekend.
Kenny Williams
pp The 1000 engine organisation team.

[pixie]

've just placed a post on this subject on the other internet stationary
engine forum. Astle park steam rally (12/13th aug) is not accepting
stationary engines this year due to a disaggreement between the astle
park promoter and FCVMA allegedly over site rights. I'm told steam
engines will not be at 1000 engine rally and stationary engines not at
the astle park steam rally. My application for the steam rally 12/13th
was returned by the organisers with a note 'no engines this year'. bit
of a bu**er all round really....

Post by w***@hotmail.com
Dear all,
THE 1000 ENGINE RALLY IS DEFINITELY NOT CANCELLED AND WILL TAKE PLACE
THIS WEEKEND,ALL WELCOME.
I have been asked by a member of the management team of the 1000 engine
rally to post this information as they are getting phonecalls asking if
the rally is cancelled.It is thought that this story originated
somewhere on the internet but it is not known where.If you hear this
rumour,kindly disregard it as it is complete rubbish.Thanks for reading
this and hope to see all of you who are attending at the weekend.
Kenny Williams
pp The 1000 engine organisation team.

[Tim Leech]

Post by pixie
've just placed a post on this subject on the other internet stationary
engine forum. Astle park steam rally (12/13th aug) is not accepting
stationary engines this year due to a disaggreement between the astle
park promoter and FCVMA allegedly over site rights. I'm told steam
engines will not be at 1000 engine rally and stationary engines not at
the astle park steam rally. My application for the steam rally 12/13th
was returned by the organisers with a note 'no engines this year'. bit
of a bu**er all round really....

Pardon my ignorance, what's the FCVMA?

It seems to me that both rallies will lose out from this, but
especially the 1000 engine raly as IMO it'll lose the broad appeal
which it has had recently. That'll mean less punters, less interesting
stalls, etc etc...

Cheers
Tim

Dutton Dry-Dock
Traditional & Modern canal craft repairs
Vintage diesel engine service

[pixie]

I placed the same sort of note on the other forum - the only real
losers this year are us as we lose a rally to attend. however, Next
year if people may remember no steam or no engines and don't attend as
paying visitors, revenue goes down. Will watch how it pans out this
weekend as no steam may be a real problem as traction engines etc pull
the crowds, no engines in comparison will have no real effect on
visitors numbers, so I suspect compared to astle park steam, 1000
engine will be worse off as a result.
FMCVA = five counties vintage machinery association which i think is
the promotional group that runs 1000 engine...

Post by Tim Leech

Post by pixie
've just placed a post on this subject on the other internet stationary
engine forum. Astle park steam rally (12/13th aug) is not accepting
stationary engines this year due to a disaggreement between the astle
park promoter and FCVMA allegedly over site rights. I'm told steam
engines will not be at 1000 engine rally and stationary engines not at
the astle park steam rally. My application for the steam rally 12/13th
was returned by the organisers with a note 'no engines this year'. bit
of a bu**er all round really....

Pardon my ignorance, what's the FCVMA?
It seems to me that both rallies will lose out from this, but
especially the 1000 engine raly as IMO it'll lose the broad appeal
which it has had recently. That'll mean less punters, less interesting
stalls, etc etc...
Cheers
Tim
Dutton Dry-Dock
Traditional & Modern canal craft repairs
Vintage diesel engine service

[Nick H]

Post by pixie
no steam may be a real problem as traction engines etc pull
the crowds, no engines in comparison will have no real effect on
visitors numbers, so I suspect compared to astle park steam, 1000
engine will be worse off as a result.

Sad, but probably true :-(

Anyway, I won't be there. I love the rally but it is just too far for a day
trip and too expensive to make a weekend of it on a regular basis. So plenty
of photo's of the wierd and wonderful (not just the big and shiny) please!

[campingstoveman]

Post by Nick H
So plenty
of photo's of the wierd and wonderful (not just the big and shiny) please!

Nick,

Apparently all the Weird and Wonderful will be in the Beer Tent at one
o'clock with badges on, and how can you refer to us over weight and thin on
top as big and shiny :-))

Come to Banbury and I will make you a cup of tea.

Martin P

[Nick H]

Post by campingstoveman
Nick,
Apparently all the Weird and Wonderful will be in the Beer Tent at one
o'clock with badges on, and how can you refer to us over weight and thin on
top as big and shiny :-))

Waiting for someone to come back with an "I resemble that remark" ;-)

Post by campingstoveman
Come to Banbury and I will make you a cup of tea.

Probably not, but if I do, it'll be Sunday as Helen is doing an RSPCA fete
(substantially worse than death) at Pinewood on Sat.

[Julian]

Post by Tim Leech
It seems to me that both rallies will lose out from this, but
especially the 1000 engine raly as IMO it'll lose the broad appeal
which it has had recently. That'll mean less punters, less interesting
stalls, etc etc...

AIUI there is a threat of legal action by a chap called Boak, (I think) the
Astle park organiser, if the 1000 engine rally allows steam. Please be aware
that this is just some pub gossip so may not be totally correct!

Julian.

[miley_bob]

Post by Julian

Post by Tim Leech
It seems to me that both rallies will lose out from this, but
especially the 1000 engine raly as IMO it'll lose the broad appeal
which it has had recently. That'll mean less punters, less interesting
stalls, etc etc...

AIUI there is a threat of legal action by a chap called Boak, (I think)
the Astle park organiser, if the 1000 engine rally allows steam. Please be
aware that this is just some pub gossip so may not be totally correct!
Julian.

That would be the infamous Simon Boak yor referring to. his company "the
events office" run Astle Pak steam rally as well as a number of others such
as Pickering Traction engine rally. All though I dont quite understand how
he could stop steam appearing at the 1000 engine rally.

Mike M

***@hotmail.com

[Tim Leech]

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:18:33 +0100, "miley_bob"

Post by miley_bob

Post by Julian

Post by Tim Leech
It seems to me that both rallies will lose out from this, but
especially the 1000 engine raly as IMO it'll lose the broad appeal
which it has had recently. That'll mean less punters, less interesting
stalls, etc etc...

AIUI there is a threat of legal action by a chap called Boak, (I think)
the Astle park organiser, if the 1000 engine rally allows steam. Please be
aware that this is just some pub gossip so may not be totally correct!
Julian.

That would be the infamous Simon Boak yor referring to. his company "the
events office" run Astle Pak steam rally as well as a number of others such
as Pickering Traction engine rally. All though I dont quite understand how
he could stop steam appearing at the 1000 engine rally.

Presumably the site owners ( was/is a childrens' charity IIRC) have
signed an agreement with him that 'his' rally will be the only steam
rally there. He must have been bothered that the 1000 engine was
becoming too popular :-(

Cheers
Tim

Dutton Dry-Dock
Traditional & Modern canal craft repairs
Vintage diesel engine service

[Julian]

Post by Tim Leech
Presumably the site owners ( was/is a childrens' charity IIRC) have
signed an agreement with him that 'his' rally will be the only steam
rally there. He must have been bothered that the 1000 engine was
becoming too popular :-(

I think that's pretty much hit the nail on the head. AIUI Mr Boak isn't an
enthusiast at all - just a business man.

[nickh]

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Post by Tim Leech
Presumably the site owners ( was/is a childrens' charity IIRC) have
signed an agreement with him that 'his' rally will be the only steam
rally there. He must have been bothered that the 1000
engine was becoming too popular :-(

J> I think that's pretty much hit the nail on the head. AIUI Mr Boak isn't
J> an enthusiast at all - just a business man.

Time to go back to Tatton Park then? I must say Helen enjoyed that venue
more than Astle thanks to it's other attractions (amongst other things she
tells me it had rare breed pigs!).

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[Greg]

Post by nickh
J> I think that's pretty much hit the nail on the head. AIUI Mr Boak isn't
J> an enthusiast at all - just a business man.

And a more hard nosed, self serving, obnoxious person you are hard pressed
to find, but that's just my experience 8-).

Greg

[nickh]

Post by nickh
J> I think that's pretty much hit the nail on the head. AIUI Mr Boak

G> isn't

Post by nickh
J> an enthusiast at all - just a business man.

G> And a more hard nosed, self serving, obnoxious person you are hard
G> pressed to find, but that's just my experience 8-).

G> Greg

Sorry to be a pain Greg, but please make it clear where your quoted text
originates. My post was about Tatton Park



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[Greg]

Post by nickh

Post by nickh
J> I think that's pretty much hit the nail on the head. AIUI Mr Boak

G> isn't

Post by nickh
J> an enthusiast at all - just a business man.

G> And a more hard nosed, self serving, obnoxious person you are hard
G> pressed to find, but that's just my experience 8-).
G> Greg
Sorry to be a pain Greg, but please make it clear where your quoted text
originates. My post was about Tatton Park

My apologies, it was Julian who said that he was just not an enthusiast,
though I think the confusion started when you yourself seemed to allocate
the statement to Tim Leech 8-).

In fact I think you should check your news reader settings as when you've
replied to a message recently it hasn't included the name of the person
who's message you are quoting, thus leaving someone else's name at the top.

Greg

[Nick H]

Post by Greg
My apologies, it was Julian who said that he was just not an enthusiast,
though I think the confusion started when you yourself seemed to allocate
the statement to Tim Leech 8-).
In fact I think you should check your news reader settings as when you've
replied to a message recently it hasn't included the name of the person
who's message you are quoting, thus leaving someone else's name at the top.

You're right Greg, it was none too clear - blame the 'cut down' newsreader
on my handheld! All I know about Mr. Boak is what I've read here,so I didn't
want to appear to be criticising someone of whom I have no personal
knowledge.

[Greg]

Post by Nick H
You're right Greg, it was none too clear - blame the 'cut down' newsreader
on my handheld! All I know about Mr. Boak is what I've read here,so I didn't
want to appear to be criticising someone of whom I have no personal
knowledge.

Yes I quite understand, I on the other hand do have personal knowledge but
daren't explain it because as we've heard he likes to sue people...

Greg

[Julian]

Post by Greg
And a more hard nosed, self serving, obnoxious person you are hard pressed
to find, but that's just my experience 8-).
Please note this rally is happening, rumours have been spread that it is
cancelled, it is not.
There is no steam due to another rally organiser from North Yorkshire being
afraid we are better than him but it will be back.
Please support us

I'm guessing that this is the man in question?

Julian.